WATCH: Project 2025 is ‘already underway’: Rep. Jasmine Crockett

0:00 | MINNESOTA TIM WALZ PUT IT THIS

0:01 | WEEK, VANCE IS THE PERFECT

0:04 | CONSIGN MONSTER CREATED BY THE

0:05 | HERITAGE FOUNDATION.

0:08 | JOINING THEM IS FRONT OF THE

0:09 | SHOW DEMOCRATIC REPRESENTED

0:10 | JASMINE CROCKETT OF TEXAS.

0:13 | SHE IS ON THE HOUSE OVERSIGHT

0:14 | AND ACCOUNTABILITY COMMITTEE

0:15 | AND DAVID PEPPER, FORMER

0:16 | CHAIRMAN OF THE OHIO DEMOCRATIC

0:18 | PARTY.

0:23 | CONGRESSWOMAN, GOOD MORNING.

0:29 | THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

0:30 | HOW DO YOU PLAN TO COMMUNICATE

0:31 | THE DANGERS OF PROJECT 2025 TO

0:32 | VOTERS? NOT JUST AROUND A TRUMP

0:34 | PRESIDENCY BUT UNDERSTANDING

0:35 | THAT EVEN A DEFEAT OF DONALD

0:36 | TRUMP STILL LEAVES PROJECT 2025

0:40 | A LOOMING AS A PROBLEM GOING

0:42 | FORWARD.

0:50 | >> FIRST OF ALL, THANKS TO

0:51 | MSNBC A FOR ACTUALLY DISCUSSING

0:52 | AN ISSUE THAT VOTERS NEED TO

0:53 | INSTEAD OF ENGAGING IN THE

0:55 | EXTRA TRAUMA GOING ON.

1:00 | SECOND OF ALL, IT IS IMPORTANT

1:01 | PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT PROJECT

1:02 | 2025 IS ALREADY UNDERWAY.

1:04 | AS SOMEONE WHO SERVED IN THE

1:05 | TEXAS HOUSE AND HAD TO ENDURE

1:06 | THE HERITAGE FOUNDATION SENDING

1:13 | ABOUT EXACTLY WHAT THEY HAVE

1:14 | THEY HAVE BEEN SENDING BILLS

1:15 | THROUGH OUR STATEHOUSES AND

1:16 | THAT IS HOW WE GOT TO THE POINT

1:17 | WE ENDED UP WITH ABORTION BANS

1:19 | BUT THEY CALLED THE HARTVILLE

1:21 | IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.

1:23 | THEY PASS IT ALONG TO FLORIDA.

1:26 | WHAT PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND

1:28 | AND DECIDE, IF YOU LIKE THE

1:33 | DIRECTION THIS COUNTRY IS GOING

1:34 | AS IT RELATES TO OUR SUPREME

1:35 | COURT THAT HAS EVISCERATED OUR

1:37 | CONSTITUTION, THAT SEEMINGLY

1:40 | DOES NOT CARE ANYTHING ABOUT

1:41 | COURT PRECEDENTS AND SEEMINGLY

1:43 | ONLY WANTS TO BOW DOWN TO TRUMP

1:45 | , AS IF THEY ARE SERVING HIM.

1:50 | IN THE WAY THAT EILEEN CANNON

1:51 | JUST DID A PRETTY THAT IS WHAT

1:52 | YOU WOULD GET MORE OF.

1:53 | IF YOU WANT TO LIVE IN A

1:54 | COUNTRY IN WHICH YOU ARE FORCED

1:56 | WITH THE PSEUDO-CHRISTIANITY,

1:58 | WHERE YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE IN GOD

2:01 | AND DO THE THINGS THEY SAY

2:02 | THEIR GOD WANTS YOU TO DO.

2:05 | I ARGUE IS THE SAME GOD THAT

2:11 | THEY USED TO JUSTIFY SLAVERY IN

2:12 | THE FIRST PLACE.

2:13 | WHEN WE LOOK WITH DIVERSITY,

2:18 | THEY HAVE DONE IN THE SUPREME

2:19 | COURT, WE SEE THIS TAKING

2:20 | THE ISSUE THAT WE DO NOT

2:22 | UNDERSTAND IS THAT THE LAST

2:26 | NAIL IN THE COFFIN IS TRUMP

2:27 | GETTING INTO THE PRESIDENCY.

2:28 | THE SCARIEST PART ABOUT THAT IS

2:30 | THAT LET US SAY HE DECIDES HE

2:34 | DOES NOT WANT TO LEAVE THE

2:35 | WHITE HOUSE.

2:36 | WHO WILL SHAKE HIM?

2:38 | THE SUPREME COURT HAS DECIDED

2:39 | THAT SHAKING HIM IS NOT

2:40 | SOMETHING THEY ARE INTERESTED

2:41 | IN DOING.

2:42 | >> DAVID, I WANT TO ASK YOU

2:44 | VANCE.

2:45 | YOU RAN THE OHIO DEMOCRATIC

2:46 | PARTY.

2:48 | WE ARE SEEING A GUY WHO WENT

2:49 | FROM BEING A NEVER TRUMPER AND

2:51 | DESCRIBING TRUMP AS AMERICA’S

3:03 | HITLER TO STANDING NEXT TO HIM,

3:04 | ARM IN ARM, IN LOCKSTEP, AS HIS

3:05 | VICE PRESIDENTIAL PICK AND

3:06 | READY TO FIGHT THE FIGHT TO GET

3:07 | TO THE WHITE HOUSE.

3:08 | WHO IS THIS GUY?

3:09 | WHICH SIDE OF HIM CAN WE TRUST?

3:10 | IT SEEMS LIKE HE WILL SAY WHAT

3:11 | IS POLITICALLY EXPEDIENT.

3:12 | WHAT IS IT THAT VOTERS NEED TO

3:13 | KNOW ABOUT WHO HE IS AT THE

3:15 | CORE?

3:21 | >> THANK YOU FOR THE SET UP.

3:22 | YOU ARE A HECK OF A LITIGATOR

3:23 | AND MAJOR CASE SO WELL.

3:24 | VANCE HAS SHOWN US THAT HE IS

3:25 | SOMEONE WHO BASICALLY WILL DO

3:26 | WHAT HE NEEDS TO DO TO GAIN

3:27 | POWER OR TO STAY IN POWER.

3:30 | IN MANY WAYS THAT IS THE

3:31 | SCARIEST THING OF ALL.

3:33 | A FEW YEARS AGO YOU CALLED IT

3:34 | OUT, HE SAID WHAT HE SAID ABOUT

3:36 | TRUMP.

3:39 | HE KNEW HE WAS AMERICA’S NEXT

3:40 | HITLER AND NOW ALL HE DOES IS

3:42 | SING HIS PRAISES.

3:43 | ONE THING THAT HE MADE CLEAR IN

3:46 | RECENT MONTHS, WHAT TRUMP

3:47 | WANTED WAS SOMEONE TO DO WHAT

3:50 | MIKE PENCE REFUSED TO DO ON

3:52 | JANUARY 6th.

3:56 | THAT WAS THE ULTIMATE TEST.

3:57 | IN RECENT WEEKS J.D.

3:58 | VANCE HAS MADE CLEAR HE WOULD

3:59 | NOT HAVE CERTIFIED THE ELECTION.

4:01 | HE IS WILLING TO GO EVEN THAT

4:03 | FAR.

4:05 | I WANT TO TALK ABOUT 2025 FOR

4:07 | ONE SECOND.

4:09 | I HAVE BEEN SAYING FOR SOME

4:10 | TIME TRUMP IS PROJECT 2025 IN

4:14 | EVERY WAY THE ASSOCIATION AND

4:15 | HE IS TRYING TO GET AWAY FROM

4:16 | IT NOW.

4:17 | IF HE WAS TRYING TO GET AWAY

4:18 | FROM IT, THE WORST THING HE

4:20 | COULD’VE DONE WAS PICK J.D.

4:24 | VANCE.

4:25 | VANCE IS ALSO THE

4:26 | PERSONIFICATION OF PROJECT 2025.

4:31 | ALL THE CONNECTIONS BACK AND

4:32 | FORTH BUT ALSO THE HEART OF THE

4:33 | ISSUE, AS YOU LAID OUT,

4:34 | WHEN YOU MENTION IN PARTICULAR,

4:37 | THE HEART OF PROJECT 2025 IS

4:38 | RIPPING AWAY CIVIL SERVICE AND

4:41 | PUTTING INTO PLACE A LOYALISTS

4:44 | AND THE DOJ, AT THE FBI.

4:45 | AT THE PLACES THAT DO OF

4:48 | PANDEMICS AND HURRICANES.

4:51 | THE TURN OF GOVERNMENT THAT IS

4:52 | ABOUT US AND MAKING IT ABOUT

4:54 | ONE MAN AS YOU SAID, J.D.

4:56 | VANCE HAS BEEN TALKING FOR A

4:57 | COUPLE YEARS.

4:59 | THE EFFORT TO MINIMIZE PROJECT

5:01 | 2025 BY TRUMP, IT ENDED WHEN HE

5:06 | VANCE.

5:07 | SOME WAYS VANCE MAY BE THE MORE

5:10 | DIEHARD SUPPORTER AND EVEN

5:11 | TRUMP HAS BEEN

5:20 | >> I WANT TO STAY WITH YOU FOR

5:21 | STRATEGICALLY WHEN YOU THINK

5:22 | ABOUT PICKING A VICE PRESIDENT,

5:23 | PART OF IT IS WHAT THEY BRING

5:24 | TO THE TABLE DONALD TRUMP JUST

5:25 | SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN LIKE

5:27 | PENCE ON JANUARY 6th FROM A

5:28 | STRATEGIC PLACE, DO YOU THINK

5:31 | VANCE SHORES OF OHIO FOR THE

5:32 | PRESIDENT? A TYPICAL SWING

5:41 | WHAT IS THE FIELD THAT YOU HAVE

5:42 | POLITICALLY SPEAKING ABOUT

5:43 | WHETHER THIS IS A SHIFT IN

5:44 | TERMS OF DONALD TRUMP ADDING

5:45 | THOSE DELICATES TO HIS TALENT

5:47 | TO GET TO WHAT HE NEEDS TO GET

5:48 | BACK TO THE WHITE HOUSE?

5:49 | >> I THINK DONALD TRUMP GAVE

5:54 | DEMOCRATS A GIFT BY PICKING

5:55 | HE BRINGS NOTHING NEW,

5:56 | POLITICALLY, TO THE TABLE FOR

5:57 | DONALD TRUMP REPUBLICANS.

5:59 | GOVERNOR OF OHIO IN 2022 WAS RE-

6:03 | ELECTED BY 25 POINTS.

6:05 | VANCE WON BY MORE THAN SIX

6:11 | IN A YEAR YOU CANNOT LOSE, HE

6:12 | UNDERPERFORMED THE TOP OF HIS

6:13 | OWN TICKET BY 20 POINTS IN THE

6:15 | MARGIN OF VICTORY.

6:16 | WITH HIS VERY RIGHT WING

6:17 | POLICIES, HE ALIENATED MANY OF

6:23 | THE BERRY MODERATE SWING VOTERS

6:24 | THAT OTHER REPUBLICANS WERE

6:25 | WINNING.

6:29 | POLITICALLY, THIS IS A GIFT.

6:30 | VANCE DOES NOTHING FOR TRUMP

6:31 | WHEN IT COMES TO VOTERS THE

6:33 | BASES MARK SAID ABOUT TRUMP AND

6:34 | VANCE ALREADY.

6:41 | VOTERS WERE IN THE MIDDLE, AS

6:42 | WE SAW IN 2022, REJECTED MANSE.

6:43 | IF I HAD BEEN A CLOSER AT THE

6:44 | TOP OF THE TICKET, VANCE WOULD

6:45 | HAVE LOST.

6:46 | THIS IS MORE ABOUT LOYALTY AND

6:47 | IT SURELY WAS NOT ABOUT A

6:49 | POLITICALLY SAVVY DECISION FANS

6:50 | DOES NOT BROADEN TRUMP IN ANY

6:52 | WAY.

6:58 | AS WE TALK ABOUT TODAY, I THINK

6:59 | HE MAKES THEM MORE VULNERABLE

7:00 | ON A LOT OF ISSUE THAT SOME OF

7:01 | THE VOTERS IN THE MIDDLE WILL

7:03 | CARE MOST ABOUT.

7:04 | >> CONGRESSMAN CROCKETT, I HAVE

7:05 | WE HAVE TALKED A LOT ABOUT

7:07 | PROJECT 2025.

7:12 | SOME PEOPLE ARE ASKING, FOR AS

7:13 | MUCH AS WE ARE TRYING TO SELL

7:14 | DEMOCRATIC VOTERS AGAINST

7:15 | PROJECT 2025, WHERE IS THE PLAN

7:16 | THAT WE ARE PUSHING TO SELL

7:18 | PEOPLE IN FAVOR OF?

7:19 | WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE INCOME

7:20 | FROM?

7:21 | >> I’M GLAD THAT YOU ASKED.

7:23 | I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TURN TO

7:29 | THEY SAY IT A LOT AND SAID

7:30 | NOTHING AT ALL.

7:31 | THEY TALKED ABOUT THINGS SUCH

7:32 | AS INFLATION AND HOW THEY WERE

7:36 | GOING TO BRING HIM DOWN.

7:37 | DID THEY SAY HAD TO BRING IT

7:39 | WE KNOW THE POLICIES THIS

7:41 | ADMINISTRATION PUT INTO PLACE

7:45 | REAP THE BENEFITS FROM THINGS

7:46 | SUCH AS THE INFLATION REDUCTION

7:48 | THINGS THAT IS THE CHIPS AND

7:54 | IN OHIO, WHERE WE TALK ABOUT A

7:55 | FIGHT IN OHIO, WE HAVE RESULTED

7:56 | VERSUS RHETORIC.

7:57 | WE KNOW THAT THERE IS A NEW

8:03 | $20 BILLION INVESTMENT RIGHT

8:04 | THERE IN THE HOPE OHIO. AND

8:06 | THAT IS A RESULT OF PRESIDENT

8:09 | BIDEN KAMALA HARRIS.

8:12 | WHEN YOU LOOK FOR, WHAT WE DO

8:14 | IN HOUSING COSTS?

8:16 | IT IS NOT THIS ADMINISTRATION

8:17 | THAT SETS THE INTEREST RATES.

8:18 | THEY KNOW THE HOUSING COST IS UP

8:20 | . THEY NEED A DEMOCRATIC HOUSE

8:21 | AND SENATE AND THEY WANT TO

8:23 | MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN PUT

8:27 | FORWARD AN OPPORTUNITY FOR

8:28 | LEGISLATION TO PASS IN WHICH

8:32 | STIPEND SO YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND

8:34 | GET INTO A HOME.

8:35 | THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE IT IS

8:37 | NOT JUST THE COST OF INSULIN

8:38 | THAT COMES DOWN.

8:40 | THEY APSLEY WANT TO PUSH AND BE

8:41 | MORE AGGRESSIVE AND USE THE

8:43 | FACT THAT THEY CAN BARGAIN FOR

8:48 | SO MANY OF THESE LIFE-SAVING

8:49 | DRUGS AND THEY WANT TO BRING

8:50 | THAT COST DOWN.

8:52 | THEY WANT TO CONTINUE TO MAKE

8:53 | SURE WE ARE BRINGING JOBS BACK

8:54 | TO AMERICA THESE ARE THE THINGS

8:59 | WE ARE GOING TO DO SO MUCH AS

9:00 | YOU GIVE US THE HOUSE AND THE

9:01 | SENATE AND WE ARE FIGHTING FOR

9:02 | VOTING RIGHTS.

9:03 | WE ARE ABSENTLY FIGHTING FOR

9:06 | REPRODUCTION RIGHTS.

9:07 | THAT GOES WITH THAT BEING SAID

9:11 | BRIEFLY ASK YOU, EVEN THOUGH IT

9:13 | IS A SOMBER NOTE.

9:14 | YOU ARE MEMBER OF THE TEXAS

9:15 | DELEGATION BUT WE LOST A HUGE

9:17 | TITAN AND REPRESENTED, SHEILA

9:21 | JACKSON LEE, JUST LAST NIGHT.

9:22 | YOUR REACTIONS.

9:23 | >> I AM PRETTY DEVASTATED. IT

9:32 | IS AN ODD FEELING FOR ME.

9:33 | IT IS ONLY THE FOURTH BLACK

9:34 | WOMAN TO EVER BE ELECTED TO

9:35 | CONGRESS FROM THE STATE OF

9:36 | TEXAS.

9:37 | THIS TIME LAST YEAR, THREE OF

9:38 | THE FOUR OF US WERE ALIVE.

9:42 | NOW WE ARE DOWN TO JUST MYSELF

9:44 | BEING ALIVE.

9:48 | SHEILA JACKSON LEE WAS A

9:49 | WARRIOR AND A LEADER AND A

9:50 | MENTOR AND FRIEND OF MINE.

9:51 | NOT ONLY WILL SHE BE MISSED BUT

9:55 | THE COUNTRY HAS LOST A TRUE

9:56 | CHAMPION.

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