WATCH: Senator Murray Grills OMB Nominee Russ Vought at Nomination Hearing


Date Posted: 2025-01-22 15:44:13 | Video Duration: 00:05:43

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Sen. Murray criticizes a nominee for past actions and positions, particularly regarding withholding aid to Ukraine and comments on the Impoundment Control Act. Murray stresses the importance of adhering to the law and questions the nominee’s stance on abortion, emphasizing the lack of exceptions for rape, incest, or the mother’s life.

Senator Murray Grills OMB Nominee Russ Vought at Nomination Hearing Transcript

  • 0:01 | SEN. MURRAY: THANK YOU.
  • 0:06 | I APPRECIATED THE OPPORTUNITY TO
  • 0:09 | MEET WITH YOU LAST WEEK, BUT I
  • 0:10 | DO CONTINUE TO HAVE VERY SERIOUS
  • 0:14 | NOMINATION.
  • 0:15 | STARTING WITH YOUR POSITION AND
  • 0:17 | RECORD.
  • 0:19 | I DO NOT BELIEVE WHAT HAPPENED
  • 0:22 | IN THE CASE OF WITHHOLDING
  • 0:24 | SECURITY ASSISTANCE TO UKRAINE
  • 0:28 | IN 2018 WAS AN ACCIDENT OR A
  • 0:29 | MISUNDERSTANDING.
  • 0:30 | I FEAR IT IS ACTUALLY A
  • 0:33 | HARBINGER OF WHAT IS TO COME
  • 0:34 | THESE NEXT FOUR YEARS.
  • 0:35 | IN FACT, ON HIS FIRST DAY IN
  • 0:39 | OFFICE, WE SAW THE PRESIDENT
  • 0:40 | ORDER, AMONG OTHER THINGS, WHAT
  • 0:42 | APPEARS TO BE AN ILLEGAL
  • 0:45 | DEFERRAL OF INFLATION REDUCTION
  • 0:46 | ACT, BIPARTISAN INFRASTRUCTURE
  • 0:49 | LAW, AND FOREIGN ASSISTANCE
  • 0:51 | FUNDS AS SENATOR MERKLEY
  • 0:52 | REFERRED TO.
  • 0:53 | YOUR WRITTEN RESPONSE WHEN
  • 0:55 | PRESSED ON THIS, THAT YOU WILL
  • 0:58 | INCOMING OMB GENERAL COUNSEL,
  • 1:01 | SOMEONE WHO HAS CALLED THE
  • 1:04 | IMPOUNDMENT CONTROL ACT A STUPID
  • 1:06 | LAW, AND RECENTLY TWEETED AT YOU
  • 1:08 | TO IMPOUND, BABY, IMPOUND IS A
  • 1:11 | BIT RICH.
  • 1:13 | AS I SAID TO YOU AT OUR MEETING,
  • 1:16 | MEMBERS OF CONGRESS ON BOTH
  • 1:17 | SIDES MUST KNOW A DEAL IS
  • 1:19 | A DEAL WHEN WE REACH A
  • 1:22 | LEGISLATION.
  • 1:23 | AGREEMENTS CANNOT HAPPEN AND
  • 1:26 | CONGRESS CANNOT FUNCTION WITHOUT
  • 1:28 | THAT LEVEL OF TRUST.
  • 1:30 | AND IMPOUND, BABY, IMPOUND IS
  • 1:33 | NOT THE ANSWER I AM LOOKING FOR.
  • 1:35 | I WANT TO ASK YOU TODAY WILL YOU
  • 1:37 | IF CONFIRMED AS DIRECTOR
  • 1:39 | FAITHFULLY FOLLOW THE LAW?
  • 1:42 | THE IMPOUNDMENT CONTROL ACT,
  • 1:43 | YES OR NO?
  • 1:45 | MR. VOUGHT: WE WILL FAITHFULLY
  • 1:48 | UPHOLD THE LAW.
  • 1:49 | THE PRESIDENT RAN ON THE NOTION
  • 1:51 | THAT THE IMPOUNDMENT CONTROL ACT
  • 1:52 | IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
  • 1:53 | I AGREE WITH THAT.
  • 1:55 | IN RESPONSE TO BOTH QUESTIONS, I
  • 1:58 | WOULD SAY WITH THE PRESIDENT HAS
  • 1:59 | UNVEILED ALREADY ARE NOT
  • 2:01 | IMPOUNDMENTS.
  • 2:02 | SEN. MURRAY: HAS THE IMPOUNDMENT
  • 2:05 | LAW EVER BEEN SAID TO BE
  • 2:06 | UNCONSTITUTIONAL BY A COURT OF
  • 2:07 | NO, IT HAS NOT.
  • 2:09 | SO, THAT IS THE LAW OF THE LAND.
  • 2:12 | I DON’T CARE WITH THE PRESIDENT
  • 2:13 | SAID WHEN HE WAS RUNNING.
  • 2:14 | IT IS THE LAW OF THE LAND.
  • 2:16 | WILL YOU FOLLOW THAT LAW IF YOU
  • 2:17 | ARE CONFIRMED?
  • 2:19 | MR. VOUGHT: THE PRESIDENT AND
  • 2:22 | REVIEW WITH OUR LAWYERS, IF
  • 2:26 | CONFIRMED, INCLUDING THE
  • 2:27 | DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE TO EXPLORE
  • 2:29 | THE PARAMETERS OF THE LAW WITH
  • 2:31 | CONTROL ACT.
  • 2:34 | THAT HE’S ANNOUNCED AS IT
  • 2:37 | PERTAINS TO HOW HE WOULD
  • 2:38 | APPROACH IT.
  • 2:40 | THERE ARE PIECES OF LEGISLATION
  • 2:41 | THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED BY
  • 2:42 | MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE.
  • 2:43 | SEN. MURRAY: WE PROPOSE
  • 2:45 | LEGISLATION ALL THE TIME.
  • 2:46 | IF THE RULE OF THE LAW IN A
  • 2:52 | STATE IS IT IS A 15 MILE PER
  • 2:53 | HOUR SPEED THEM IT, YOU CANNOT
  • 2:55 | JUST SAY — SPEED LIMIT, YOU
  • 2:58 | CANNOT JUST SAY I THINK IT IS
  • 3:00 | CHALLENGE IT AND I WON’T FOLLOW
  • 3:02 | WILL YOU FOLLOW THE LAW OR NOT?
  • 3:05 | YOU CAN SAY WE WILL LOOK AT IT.
  • 3:07 | YOU MIGHT CHALLENGE IT IN COURT,
  • 3:09 | BUT IT IS THE LAW TODAY.
  • 3:10 | WILL YOU FOLLOW THE LAW AS
  • 3:11 | DIRECTED?
  • 3:12 | MR. VOUGHT: THE REASON WHY THE
  • 3:15 | PRESIDENT RAN ON THIS IS 200
  • 3:16 | YEARS OF PRESIDENTS —
  • 3:17 | SEN. MURRAY: YOU ARE TELLING ME
  • 3:20 | WHY YOU DON’T AGREE WITH THE
  • 3:21 | LAW, BUT THE LAW IS THE LAW,
  • 3:22 | WOULD YOU AGREE?
  • 3:23 | MR. VOUGHT: WE HAD AGENCIES THAT
  • 3:26 | WOULD PUSH OUT AT THE END OF THE
  • 3:27 | FISCAL YEAR.
  • 3:28 | SEN. MURRAY: I WILL TAKE MY TIME
  • 3:30 | BACK FOR A MINUTE AND TELL ALL
  • 3:31 | OF US, WE WORK ALL THE TIME ON
  • 3:35 | APPROPRIATIONS TO COME TO AN
  • 3:36 | SENATOR GRAHAM, WE WORK ON
  • 3:39 | AGREEMENTS AND WE DECIDE WE WILL
  • 3:40 | BOTH VOTE FOR THIS.
  • 3:42 | HOW COULD WE EVER HAVE AN
  • 3:43 | AGREEMENT IN THE FUTURE IF A
  • 3:45 | PRESIDENT, WHOEVER HE OR HER MAY
  • 3:49 | BE IN THE FUTURE AS SAY OVER
  • 3:50 | THAT, SAYING NEVER MIND, I WILL
  • 3:53 | NOT PAY FOR THIS PART OF IT?
  • 3:55 | WE HAVE TO HAVE AGREEMENTS, IT
  • 3:56 | IS THE LAW OF THE LAND.
  • 3:58 | I HAVE TO SAY YOUR ANSWER TO
  • 3:59 | THIS SHOULD BE DISCONCERTING TO
  • 4:01 | EVERY SINGLE MEMBER ON THIS
  • 4:02 | COMMITTEE.
  • 4:03 | I HAVE A MINUTE LEFT AND I WANT
  • 4:05 | TO MESS YOU ANOTHER IMPORTANT
  • 4:06 | QUESTION TO ME BECAUSE AS
  • 4:09 | DIRECTOR OF THE POWERFUL OFFICE
  • 4:10 | OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET, YOUR
  • 4:11 | JOB WILL NOT BE MERELY TO
  • 4:14 | EXECUTE THE PRESIDENT’S AGENDA,
  • 4:17 | IT IS ALSO TO ADVISE THE
  • 4:18 | MADE CLEAR.
  • 4:21 | WANT TO ASK ABOUT WOMEN’S HEALTH
  • 4:22 | POLICY.
  • 4:23 | YOU WERE A LEAD AUTHOR OF THE
  • 4:25 | ANTIABORTION PROJECT 2025.
  • 4:27 | YOU ARE ALSO CAUGHT A FEW MONTHS
  • 4:28 | AGO SAYING WHEN IT COMES TO
  • 4:29 | ABORTION, YOU “WANT TO GET TO
  • 4:32 | ABOLITION.”
  • 4:33 | EVERYONE SHOULD UNDERSTAND THAT
  • 4:37 | ABORTION, ABOLITION MEANS ZERO
  • 4:41 | ABORTIONS UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE
  • 4:42 | WHATSOEVER.
  • 4:43 | SO, YOU HAVE SAID YOU DON’T
  • 4:44 | BELIEVE IN EXCEPTIONS FOR RAPE,
  • 4:46 | FOR INCEST, OR LIFE OF THE
  • 4:48 | MOTHER.
  • 4:49 | IS THAT YOUR POSITION?
  • 4:50 | MR. VOUGHT: MY VIEWS ARE NOT
  • 4:52 | IMPORTANT.
  • 4:53 | I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF THE
  • 4:55 | PRESIDENT TO RESTORE FISCAL
  • 4:56 | SEN. MURRAY: I AM ASKING YOU A
  • 4:59 | QUESTION UNDER OF BECAUSE YOU
  • 5:00 | WANT TO BE DIRECTOR OF AN OFFICE
  • 5:03 | THAT WILL ADVISE THE PRESIDENT
  • 5:04 | AND WE HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW YOUR
  • 5:05 | WILL YOU ANSWER THE QUESTION?
  • 5:07 | MR. VOUGHT: IT IS CONSISTENT
  • 5:09 | WITH THE VIEWS OF THE PRESIDENT
  • 5:10 | RAN ON REPEATEDLY, MADE HIS
  • 5:13 | VIEWS VERY CLEAR ON ABORTION
  • 5:14 | WITH REGARD IN THE LAST
  • 5:16 | SEN. MURRAY: EVEN IN THE CASE OF
  • 5:19 | RAPE, INCEST AND THE LIFE OF THE
  • 5:20 | MOTHER?
  • 5:21 | MR. VOUGHT: THAT IS HIS VIEW.
  • 5:23 | I WILL ABIDE BY THE PRESIDENT’S
  • 5:24 | VIEW.
  • 5:26 | THAT WILL BE THE GENERAL THEME
  • 5:27 | THROUGHOUT HIS HEARING.
  • 5:28 | MY VIEW IS YOU COME INTO
  • 5:31 | ADMINISTRATION AND YOU DO WITH
  • 5:32 | PRESIDENT’S VIEWPOINTS ARE, AND
  • 5:35 | YOU TAKE THAT VIEWPOINT —
  • 5:36 | SEN. MURRAY: YOU DON’T NEED TO
  • 5:38 | SAY ANYTHING ELSE.
  • 5:39 | IT IS VERY CLEAR WHAT YOUR
  • 5:40 | STANCE IS AND PEOPLE IN THIS

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